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german best lnbs
« on: December 20, 2008, 02:22:36 PM »
has anyone tried these german best lnbs as i have heard they are the rebadged darkgold lnb

as people have been saying they are good on other forums and don't quite believe that.



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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 12:51:58 AM »
Dunno. Good question. I've seen them starting to appear in various sat shops, and even on eBay, but never bought one. I still have a few spares knocking around, so I won't be splashing out anytime soon either.

It took me a long time to believe that the Titaniums were any good at that price, but they turned out to be pretty good value for money.
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 02:59:20 PM »
yeah i had noticed them appear on ebay and sat shops and thought it might be worth a try as they do a twin/quad versions.

as I'm already wanting to upgrade to a twin or quad lnb to allow a direct feed to my skystar 2 card and add a hd receiver.

on the smart titanium lnb i have heard the 2nd edition lnbs aren't as good as the first version ?
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 11:37:49 PM »
Yes, I've heard the same about the Titanium 2nd generation LNBs.
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 11:27:16 PM »
not decided on which lnb to buy as I'm wondering just to splash out on the invacom as i can go to that price.

people on many forums are raving about these darkgold lnbs, we all know the place i mean. its so funny reading the comments about them saying they are better than the invacom, which i so doubt they are

when testing lnbs it seems many people are just going by the levels on the receiver signal bars which cant be a proper test.

i was just going to use my horizon meter and see which had the highest db rating on a weak satellite
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 11:02:18 AM »
There must be loads of different tests you can run, but your basic received signal strength has to be the main one that we can perform at home. Built-in receiver strength indicators might not be accurate, but it gives a rough guide and can safely be used for comparative purposes. Your meter will certainly be more accurate though.

Various testing methods for LNBs were employed by Ofcom in partnership with ERA during tests they performed to establish possible interference issues associated with proposed new bandwidth allocations. The report can be found here:

http://www.nosky.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5183.msg7885.html#msg7885

Section 3.2 is the appropriate bit for us. They also carried out conducted and radiated gain measurements in the lab (and in the car park!), plus other more obscure tests. Coincidentally, the tests included the C120 Invacom (single output version).

The results were very interesting. The MTI won out on gain tests at lower frequencies in the band, whilst the Sharp kicked arse at the higher frequencies. They didn't test the Invacom Quad, nor did they test any of the LNBs on low power satellites and/or in fringe-reception conditions - only at 28.2E.

As an aside, the cold weather should improve the performance of all LNBs to a degree, as was proved with the 'freeze-spray' tests. Even the 20°C difference between summer and winter should be noticeable.
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2009, 11:34:18 PM »
funny you should say that about the mti lnbs as they going for cheap on ebay now so its between 3 lnbs best, smart titanium and mti supreme line

I've used the single smart titanium lnb so know they are good but interested in these other two as i dont want to buy a few lnbs as the twin/quad cost more than single ones.

but i might hold off this as I'm tempted to get into linux receiver and been looking at the ipbox 900/9000 as they are meant to be better than a dreambox but need to check the support on them
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 07:21:39 PM »
i've ordered one of the mti supreme line quad lnbs and shall see what they are like reception wise when it arrives
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 12:34:01 AM »
OK, cool.

I've had a few MTI's and always liked them. I used one for 7W on my TD110 with good results once.
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 12:13:19 AM »
OK, cool.

I've had a few MTI's and always liked them. I used one for 7W on my TD110 with good results once.

well the lnb has arrived and i will fit on saturday.

i hope it turns out to be a bargain for the price as i had decided on a invacom quad but they are a bit pricey.
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2009, 02:33:06 PM »
Is this for your CM 90cm? Was there not a C120 option?

TBH, I don't think a separate feedhorn will do much for a 90cm, but it sure will for a 1.2m if you ever want to upgrade.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »
yes its for my cm 90 dish as i had a couple of lnbf , smart titanium and edision on the dish and they worked well so i thought the feedhorn might not make any difference unless the dish was over 1.2m in size

i will know if the lnb is any good if the signal levels are better than the current lnb on the dish on 1west tv2 norge and 16east digitalb
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2009, 01:46:46 PM »
well i have fitted the lnb and checked all inputs was working and found port 2 on the lnb to be the best

so i've used this as i have only 1 feed at the moment from the dish

signal levels wise think i've hit the limit for my dish as I'm getting the same signal levels as the previous lnbs i had on it

tv2 norge i think i need a larger dish to pull more signal as that was low but it was overcast.

no improvement on digitalb signals either this is due to the fec used i think

overall very strong signals on the usual astra 19east, hotbird 13e, thor 5 1west and good signals on 16e
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2009, 09:19:59 PM »
Well at least you know you're probably getting the max out of your setup now.

Next stop a bigger dish?
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Re: german best lnbs
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 06:59:20 PM »
Well at least you know you're probably getting the max out of your setup now.

Next stop a bigger dish?

yes but will need to make a new mount on top of flat roof for that as i bet somebody will say something if i put 1.2m in same place as it is now

one thing i might do is if i can get cheap from somewhere is try the invacom quad and see how good that is.

i was surprised the lnb ports read the same db strength as a quad on my minidish varied over the 4 lnb ports
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